What to expect in advisor pay in 2025

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When markets go up, even advisors whose compensation rates have dipped have fewer reasons for complaining. They can at least take comfort in knowing their growing assets under management will boost their higher take-home pay.

Such was the case in recent years, when a bull run in stocks no doubt eased the pain of advisors whose compensation was reduced because they were on the low end of the revenue-generation scale. But the reverse threatens to hold true this year; falling markets could mean reductions in payouts for advisors at all production levels.

That's the possibility that advisors are staring at in 2025 for the first time in many years. Stocks have been sent on a wild ride by President Donald Trump's on-again, off-again imposition of tariffs, greatly reducing the prospects for outsize gains. Meanwhile, large wealth managers show no signs of lifting pressure on the advisors on the bottom rungs of the production ladder.

Changes at UBS and Janney

This year, UBS and Janney Montgomery Scott followed the examples set by Morgan Stanley, RBC Wealth Management, Stifel, Merrill and Raymond James in 2023 and 2024 by lowering payout rates for advisors with relatively low asset-under-management tallies. 

Advisors generating $400,000 in annual revenue at UBS will see their base pay fall from $128,000 last year to $116,000 this year. Those at the $600,000 level will meanwhile receive $216,000 in base pay (consisting of standard compensation plus year-end bonuses and deferred compensation); that's down from $240,000 last year.

"This plan aligns advisor compensation with our strategic growth and profitability goals in the U.S., with our belief that advisors should be rewarded for growth and longevity and with our commitment to offering one of the industry's most competitive packages," UBS said in a statement.

Follow these links for breakdowns for 2025 advisor base pay* at four different production levels:

*All data is provided by the companies featured and compiled by Arizent, with analysis by Tasnady & Associates. Data from Edward Jones reflects average values, and individual financial advisors' experience there may vary. 

Similarly at Janney, advisors producing $600,000 in annual revenue will be making $240,000 in base pay this year, down from $264,000 in 2023. (There was no change this year for Janney advisors at the $400,000 level.)

Janney instituted its changes by simplifying its compensation grid — the in-house rubric showing payout rates for advisors at different levels of revenue production. The number of tiers in Janney's grid fell to 10 this year from 12.

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A Janney spokesperson said the firm's compensation policies are "simple, transparent and easy to understand."

"Our recent grid updates reflect a streamlined tier structure while ensuring total compensation remains competitive," the spokesperson said. "Over the last year, we also introduced an ownership program, giving every Janney advisor and employee an ownership stake in the firm."

Below the $400,000 revenue level, both Wells Fargo and Morgan Stanley are also making life more challenging for advisors in a revenue-generation tier often referred to as the "penalty box." Wells Fargo raised the annual revenue threshold that advisors with eight years of experience have to reach in order to receive a bump in compensation, taking it up from $300,000 to $330,000. At Morgan Stanley, brokers with at least nine years of experience will have to generate at least $360,000 in annual revenue, up from $300,000 now, to avoid a reduction in their payout rate.

Firms put targets on low-end producers

Andrew Tasnady, an industry compensation consultant and the founder of Tasnady & Associates, said there's nothing new about firms reducing payouts to low producers to give them a push toward higher revenue generation. What is different this year is the dim prospects that the market will come to the rescue.

If stock values fall or offer only tepid returns, the resulting pain will fall on advisors at all revenue-production levels. Since advisor compensation consists in large part of fees set at a percentage of assets under management, it tends to increase or decrease in direct proportion to the value of stocks and other assets in clients' portfolios. If the market tanks, the result would be a double whammy for low producers, many of whom have already seen their payout rates reduced in recent years, Tasnady said.

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While UBS and Janney adjusted payouts for certain advisors this year, most of their rivals made no changes to their compensation grids in 2025, Tasnady said. Those firms may have dodged a bullet, he said.

"It's easier, I think, to make compensation changes when advisors are making 20% more cash already," Tasnady said.

The lessons of 2008 for advisor recruiting

Phil Waxelbaum, the founder of the recruiting firm Masada Consulting, said that aside from the period of economic downturn during the COVID-19 pandemic, advisors have actually benefited from a decade of steady market gains. That means many who are in the business now don't actually know what it's like to work through a time of decreasing values.

Waxelbaum said falling take-home pay, if the current downturn persists, could lead to an increase in advisors switching firms. That's what eventually happened amid the bear market tied to the collapse of U.S. housing values in 2008.

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Advisors were at first reluctant to try to move their books of business, fearing clients might see little reason to follow someone managing a declining portfolio. But that changed over the next two years as the economic outlook improved and recruiting "accelerated to what was the highest pace of a six-month period ever experienced on Wall Street," Waxelbaum said.

"For right now, my attitude is that most advisors are going to be reluctant to take any action until this volatility fades," Waxelbaum said. "But then they're going to play catch up."

Waxelbaum said changes in market conditions often take 60 to 90 days to show up in advisors' take home pay.

"And when that impact starts to get felt, do I think that if there are advisors who've gotten their ass kicked, who are going to be impatient and not want to wait it out?" he said. "Yes."

Jeff Nash, the CEO and co-founder of the recruiting firm Bridgemark Strategies, said market downturns tend to be times when advisors have to put in additional hours assuaging nervous clients.

"So you are working harder and you are getting paid less because the markets are down," he said.

Nash agreed that declining compensation spurred advisor movement following the housing crash nearly 17 years ago.

"When you're cutting payout rates and the markets fall, that's a double hit against advisor take-home pay," Nash said. "After 2008, that spurred a lot of movement out of the wirehouses and into the independent space. That's what could certainly happen again."

Join teams, produce more revenue or leave

Of course, making low-end producers work harder to take home the same amount is perfectly in line with many wealth managers' long-standing goals, Tasnady said. In the case of UBS, for instance, the message to advisors is clear, he said.

"It's basically telling those advisors that they need to either get on a team where they can earn more through their team-based compensation plan, or leave the firm, or just accept a much lower payout," Tasnady said.

UBS executives have acknowledged the pay changes could lead some advisors to the exit doors. In an earnings call in February, UBS Chief Financial Officer Todd Tuckner told analysts that, "our efforts to align financial advisor incentives with our strategic priorities may result in a short-term increase in [financial advisor] attrition, creating an additional headwind for net new assets in the coming months."

But UBS is also quick to point out that it has tried to give advisors additional means of making up for revenue they may lose because of changes to compensation policies. The bank, for instance, is offering a cash award of up to $1 million for advisors who hit certain targets for bringing in net new money. 

UBS has also delayed a proposal that would end advisors' ability to collect part of the so-called 12b-1 fees investors pay when they have mutual funds in their portfolios. Those fees, which cover marketing and distribution costs, were initially supposed to stop going to advisors at the beginning of the year; the deadline has now been pushed back to July 1.

Policies like these are often tacked on to base compensation in order to encourage certain actions. One way advisors with low revenue numbers can boost their pay is by joining teams with higher-producing colleagues.

UBS had once had the most generous compensation policy on Wall Street for teamed-up advisors. Under a now-scrapped policy, it used the total revenue generation for the entire group as the basis for payments. 

The firm's recent compensation changes mean advisory teams will now be paid at the rate earned by their highest-producing member. That modification brings UBS's pay policy for teams in line with almost every other firm; it also is likely to mean pay reductions for some advisors.

Roughly 70% of UBS advisors now belong to teams. Having advisors group up with their colleagues not only helps them by often enabling them to get paid at the rate of higher producers; it also helps the firm by making it harder for single advisors to break off and move assets to a competitor.

When considering the different components of advisor compensation, Tasnady likes to use the analogy of a house. 

"Changing the grid is like changing the shape of the house," he said. "Adding a room, knocking down a wall — these are things that are at the core. And then, a lot of times, these other bonuses and tweaks are more like repainting the room, moving the furniture around."

Tasnady said firms know that advisors like to see few changes in their compensation from year to year. Many firms shy away from annual grid modifications to avoid sowing disgruntlement, he said.

"That's the advantage of not making a change," Tasnady said. "The disadvantage is you're missing an opportunity to send a new message on the types of behaviors you want and to create new excitement if there is some opportunity for increased compensation."

Giving advisors a push up the revenue-generation ladder

Firms clearly want to instill enthusiasm for the prospect of having ever greater amounts of assets under management. Most point advisors toward the higher end of the revenue scale with much higher payout rates.

UBS, for instance, lets advisors at the $1 million level keep 49% of the revenue they produce — the highest proportion among its direct wirehouse rivals. At the $2 million level, it's bested by Wells Fargo, which lets its advisors keep 51.7% compared with 51% at UBS. 

At the low end, though, UBS advisors with $400,000 in annual revenue keep only 29%. Merrill pays out 40.5% at that level, and Wells Fargo 38.7%

Janney, meanwhile, has changed its grid in ways that will bring it more in line with other regional firms' pay policies for high producers. Advisors generating $1 million a year in revenue will now get to take home 50%, up from 48.5% last year. Its new rate for $1 million producers put it slightly behind its regional rivals Raymond James, RBC Wealth Management and Stifel, which all pay just over 50%.

Falling markets help control firms' costs, but …

Tasnady said that wealth managers for years have worried about what's known in the industry as "grid creep" — the likelihood that rising stock values and other economic forces would push advisors toward ever higher AUM tallies and payout rates. Current market conditions suggest that anxieties about grid creep can be given a rest this year.

"If the market continues to decline from where it is today, you'll see less revenue-related expense, particularly in Wealth and Investment Management," Wells Fargo Chief Financial Officer Mike Santomassimo said in his firm's latest earnings call.

At UBS, executives have also been working to control expenses as it seeks to bring its cost-to-revenue ratio down to 85% by the end of 2026. That ratio was at just over 92% at the end of last year.

The trouble is that firms that have lower advisor-compensation costs owing to falling markets will also have lower revenues. And the pain from diminished take-home pay won't be felt solely by low-end producers, Tasnady said. It will hit the highfliers that firms are desperate to keep as well as the advisors whom firms might as soon see go somewhere else.

"If the market, for the first time in a while, dips 15% or 20%, that means their compensation is going down 15 or 20%, because it's completely tied to the amount of fee revenue," Tasnady said. "So it's a tough environment to be cutting compensation rates in. Maybe it was a good thing that, particularly this year, firms didn't make a lot of changes."

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