Speaking on Tuesday at Barclays Global Financial Services Conference in New York,
"This was a very targeted change for sweep deposits," Santomassimo said. "So this is effectively mostly frictional cash that sits in advisory counts, and we align those rates with money fund rates. So it's very specific to this product, not other products."
"Cash sweeps" generally refers to firms' practice of taking clients' uninvested cash and moving it over to affiliated or unaffiliated banks, where it can be lent out or invested for relatively high returns.
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No firm has cited the legal filings as a reason for raising its rates. But many firms have nonetheless announced plans in recent months to increase their payouts on sweeps accounts.
'The right thing to do'
Still, many of the lawsuits filed against Wells and other firms have tried to make hay out of the fact that returns of 5% can be obtained simply by moving client cash into money market funds — a type of mutual fund that invests in short-term debt. Santomassimo made it clear Tuesday that Wells was using money markets as its benchmark.
"As we went through the process, we decided to move it more aligned to the money fund rates," Santomassimo said on Tuesday. "And we think that was the right thing to do."
Speaking at the same conference, Morgan Stanley co-president Daniel Simkowitz likewise expressed comfort with his firm's recent changes to its sweeps rates. Simkowitz's colleague, Chief Financial Officer Sharon Yeshaya,
Morgan Stanley is also embroiled
But rather than say Morgan Stanley is trying to match money markets, Simkowitz contended Tuesday that the firm's sweeps changes are due to competition-related pressures. Simkowitz said Morgan Stanley noticed some wealth management clients reallocating their money in response to rates offered through its advisory services.
Simkowitz said Morgan Stanley isn't trying to compete purely on rates, "but we moved some of the rates on those advisory accounts."
"We feel very comfortable that that move in the context of the overall advisory proposition that we have with clients is in good shape," he said. "And so I think you heard that, and we're going to keep saying it over and over again. It's part of the package. But we feel pretty comfortable with the rate move that we made — that it's reasonable and it's defending our competitive position."
Lawyer: Higher rates don't fix past harm
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In an interview last week, one of the lead lawyers in the suits — Matt Dameron of Williams Dirks Dameron in Kansas City — said the rate increases do nothing to repair harm that has already been done.
"Our case is looking retrospective. We're looking into the past to try to get those damages," he said, adding that raising rates does nothing "to fix all the money that has been misallocated from our clients over the past several years."
Wealth management prospects
Simkowitz and Santomassimo meanwhile both expressed optimism about their firms' wealth management prospects. Simkowitz reemphasized Morgan Stanley CEO Ted Pick's sense that much of the firm's new wealth business will come through its workplace channel.
That channel,
The number started at roughly 2.5 million in 2019, when Morgan Stanley
Simkowitz said Morgan Stanley has relationships with many businesses, and their CEOs in particular, through its investment banking arm.
"So if you combine wealth management capabilities in delivering financial wellness to an employee base or ultimately to the end consumer, as well as our relationship capabilities in the investment bank, we're now not just a capital advisor, a risk management advisor, an M&A advisor, but also a talent advisor to all these corporations," Simkowitz said.
Santomassimo in his remarks said
"The tide has turned," he said. "We're seeing good recruiting. We went from industry-leading in attrition to what we think is industry-leading in retention."