Eric Housman sees
Many banks looking to establish an advisory arm simply go out and buy an existing RIA.
When Housman
"In 2021, we built this thing from a complete blank piece of paper," Housman said. "Fidelity is our custodian. We don't use any of the bank's technology. We're a separate LLC, wholly owned by
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But being similar to a small business doesn't mean
That would put it among the biggest players in the industry.
Unlike many wealth managers that bring assets over by recruiting advisory teams from wirehouses and independent broker-dealers, Housman and his colleagues are looking mainly to private banks. In November, for instance,
Housman sat down with Financial Planning to discuss his ambitions for the RIA, why he prefers to recruit private bankers and why he thinks other banks might soon imitate what he and his team have done.
This article has been lightly edited for clarity and brevity.
Financial Planning: Why would a large bank like
Eric Housman: If you look at our industry over the last 10 years plus, you've seen clients and assets and talent start to leave, or leave traditional private banks and go to independent RIAs. So at
Could we go in and attract some of this talent, clients and assets that are already leaving, and get them over here?
FP: Why prioritize recruiting from private banks rather than wirehouses, IBDs or other RIAs?
EH: There are a lot of talented people inside of traditional private banks today who are looking to make a move. And the way I describe them is they're in the second half to last third of their career. They've already moved private banks maybe once or twice, so they're not interested in doing that again. And they've maybe thought about going to work for an independent RIA.
But I think our special niche is the access back into the bank, so that they can still offer the same sorts of services that they used to — the balance sheets, the trust powers, the planning capabilities. And we wanted folks that had some level of corporate perspective and what it was like, even though we don't "work for the bank." But we are owned, so there is that crossover with the bank.
So we're kind of in that sweet spot in the middle. And the positive for them is that we've removed all the time distractors inside of any large financial institution that keep you away from clients. There is no other bank in the country that is doing this.
FP: One of the big drawbacks to recruiting private bankers is that their assets are often harder to move over than, say, assets from a wirehouse. What are you doing to ease these transitions?
EH: There is always going to be a level of that. That's why, No. 1, we
No. 2, we only target teams with a billion dollars in assets under management or greater, because we want their pool to be big enough, knowing that not all of it is going to follow.
No. 3, we only recruit teams that also have members that are very tenured and have been with these clients over an extended period of time. So you might think that makes your pool very small. But we're learning pretty early on, that's exactly what works.
It's a very simple model. People know that if they come here, they need to have a following. It makes for a very easy marriage.
FP: How do you go about recruiting?
EH: We're very blessed here. We have a dedicated sourcer/recruiter here inside the bank who only works for us. He is on the phone all day long. And he has been doing this for at least 20 years. He has a very deep Rolodex of relationships with people from coast to coast. Usually the first step in what he's truly trying to do is set up a call or a meeting with me, so I can explain the model.
The one thing that we're not doing — we're not a broker-dealer, we're not an FA shop. So we're not doing upfront checks on trailing 12s or things like that. But we do have a very lucrative
It's fashioned after an RIA, not a bank compensation model.
FP: Do your advisors receive incentives for encouraging clients to buy
EH: Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, probably one of the interesting things is that, while we have access to the balance sheet and all those things I mentioned earlier, they don't have to use any of those things. Our investment platform is open architecture. We don't have any proprietary products whatsoever.
So this is definitely a client-first model, with no additional incentives at all.
FP: Are many of your clients referred to you from the bank?
EH: What makes us uniquely additive to the bank is we don't get any internal referrals, so everything we do is sourced from the outside. So in theory, probably 95% at least, of what we do never would have come to
And we still have the traditional private bank, and they are set up in the regions and have relationships. Our role was never to infringe on or eat into any of those. Ours was always to go out and find it on the outside and have these folks move their formal relationships over. Which is, again, one of the reasons why our compensation model is more like an RIA and less like a bank.
FP: Do you think some other banks may soon follow your lead here?
EH: I don't think the traditional private bank is ever going away. But I think this sort of model — eventually somebody will copy us. Today, we may be the only bank that's figured this out.
But I just think the business is moving in this direction. The RIA business is just booming and growing like crazy over the last 10 years. So I think we found a really unique niche for now that we're going to exploit for as long as we possibly can.